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MStarfire · Nov 13, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by upier

Although I was hoping the thread would be about which title would you chose if A.Net decided to give each account ONE maxed title for free - either account wide or character-title.
That would be a better thread.

So go start it?

MisterT69 · Nov 13, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by kostolomac

PvE skills so I can put CoP on my heroes

Yeah, I want that. And w/7 heroes, that'd be even better XD

Gli · Nov 13, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Since I don't play alone all that often, 7 heroes wouldn't do much for me. So, PvE skills it is. I'd put Air of Superiority on all my heroes, for laughs.

Jecht Scye · Nov 13, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Seven Heroes, easiest decision ever.

the_jos · Nov 13, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Neither. This has nothing to do with whether or not PvE is easy but everything with what a game like Guild Wars is supposed to be.
It isn't a game that is ment to be played solo. Those critters like heroes and hench were invented to fill up a party, not to create one with only one human.
So in my opinion the seven hero option is against core game mechanics and therefore not an option.

Next the PvE skills.
It's very possible to make specific builds for heroes that will outperform human players.
Heroes react, abuse that mechanic and you have a winner.

Besides that, a lot of the PvE skills look ok and are powerfull in the hands of a human player, but would not be used really efficient by heroes.
One poster mentioned CoP, which mainly is an interrupt with bonus damage if a foe has a mesmer hex on it. So heroes will use it as interrupt and you need to make sure they will only attack foes with the mesmer hex on them (precast AoE mesmer hex for example). I think the same is true for many other PvE skills.
And PvE skills were designed to give a human player some advantage over heroes again.
Because, and I have stated this several times, the most time-efficient team is still either a very organised guild team or two humans with 6 heroes.
Making that 1 human + 7 heroes would flip it to that option with the only exception organised guild teams. Creating a solo game, something the game was not ment to be.

So I don't really see any reason for either option unless you want to make Guild Wars a solo game, something I've always strongly opposed.

I pwnd U · Nov 13, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Between the two, 7 heroes for sure.

Puebert · Nov 13, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Seven heroes.

Hyper Cutter · Nov 13, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

7 heroes and give Bear Form (you know, the skill all the Norn NPCs have) to Jora upon completion of the Nornbear mission (why didn't they do that? The game specifically states she got the ability back, but she can't use it).

SmokingHotImolation · Nov 13, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by kostolomac

PvE skills so I can put CoP on my heroes

Agreed, and Necrosis on my discors pals.

cognophile · Nov 13, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

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Originally Posted by the_jos

So I don't really see any reason for either option unless you want to make Guild Wars a solo game, something I've always strongly opposed.

Agreed. Why turn Guild Wars into a solo game?

I have doubts about whether adding heroes to the game was a good thing. Heroes have made PvE easier, can be more skillful than random PUG players, never leave during a mission, etc., but they also greatly reduce the incentive to form groups with other human players, which is something I miss.

As for PvE skills, I think one reason so many of these were added in EotN was to give human players more incentive to play with each other.

So, in my opinion, neither allowing 7 heroes per player nor allowing PvE skills on heroes is a good idea.

Windf0rce · Nov 13, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

PvE Skills on Heroes.

Because I have a friend I always play with, so we have 2 humans and 6 heroes all the time anyway. Thus PvE skill on heroes would be more powerful.

wind fire and ice · Nov 13, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

7 heroes,with out a doubt.
pve skills wouldnt really be needed since i call targets for my heroes and already use ap+ebon 'sin+finish him,only thing id get out of it would be 4 sins jumping around vs 1 if heroes got pve skills.